Kai Greene 4 WEEKS out from the Mr.Olympia 2015

4 Weeks out !
Kai Greene 4 Weeks out from the O!teamwobb.blogspot.de
Posted by World Of Bodybuilding on Donnerstag, 27. August 2015

That was Kai Greene under his "Suit"

R.i.P. Baito Abbaspour

Just one Month ago Dennis James announced a Statement on Facebook regarding Baito's health state:
"Please help to save Baito who is suffering from Vasculitis which is an inflammation of blood vessels, which destroys both veins and arteries and it put Baito in a very bad position. Baito and his family need our help now! He is back in the hospital again with no financial help from anybody not even the government is helping this man who had to sell just about everything he owned just to pay for some of the hospital bills. Please to all the bodybuilding fans, athletes and friends let's help him with a donation, whatever it is you can donate to help this man to get back on his feet and see his kids grow up and graduate. 
I myself will donate $1,000.00 to make sure that his kids will grow up with a father and his wife will have her loving husband back at home where he belongs.
Every dollar raised here will go towards the hospital bills. Every little bit will help this to get the treatment he really needs to overcome this disease. "

Even at that level of disease, there were still a lot of Guys in the Internet and Youtuber's that didn't say anything else than " Gains destroyed! All his Gains are lost.."...

Yesterday, a very sad news came in from his friend Dennis James, which let the Bodybuilding World get shocked :

"This is a very sad day and I am at total loss for words but I have to let you all know that my friend Baito who was fighting for a long time has lost the battle and passed away. My condolences go out to his family and to all the Iranian people who loved and supported their hero all this time. RIP Baito Abbaspour."

Rest in Peace Baito!!!

Another soul lost!

2015 Mr Olympia Qualified Athletes

Name	Country
Abiad, Fouad	Canada
Bannout, Mohamad Ali	Lebanon
Bonac, William	Netherlands
Curry, Brandon	USA
Delarosa, Jonathan	USA
Elssbiay, Mamdouh	Kuwait
Greene, Kai	USA
Heath, Phil	USA
Jackson, Dexter	USA
Jellali, Abdelaziz	Morocco
McCarver, Dallas	USA
Morel, Juan	USA
Obaid, Essa	UAE
Rhoden, Shawn	USA
Rockel, Ronny	Germany
Smalls, Fred	USA
Winklaar, Roelly (Egberton)	Curacao
Wolf, Dennis	Germany

ZYZZ - Dead but not forgotten..! NEW Video

Do you remember Zyzz?!Check this one!

Das blaue vom Himmel - Magazine und ihre Märchen Teil 1

Kauft man sich ein Bodybuilding Magazin, hat man den Eindruck das nichts einfacher sei als der Aufbau von gigantischen Muskeln bei einer messerscharfen Definition. Der Hansl aus dem Fitnessraum scheint alles falsch zu machen. Er trainiert schon 5 Jahre und hat immernoch keinen 50er Ärmel.
Dabei kann man doch in 8 Wochen 10 kg Muskelmasse aufbauen, zumindest laut den Artikeln in den unzähligen Fitness und Bodybuilding Magazinen,die irreführender nicht sein könnten.
Trainingsprogramme von Champions wie Jay Cutler und Ernährungspläne von Ronnie Coleman werden dem Otto Normalverbraucher präsentiert, als wären sie die Allgemeinformel schlechthin.
Doch selbst die Diät eines Colemans umfasst mehr Kalorien als der Kalorienbedarf im tiefsten Aufbau  des Neuanfängers, der frustriert die Flex an die Kasse zieht.
Lest die Tage mehr

The Most Shocking Bodybuilding Interview Ever (IRONMAN, February '97) by Steve Holman

Warning:This is an extremely controversial interview. To be honest, we almost decided not to print it; however, because IRONMAN has always been an open forum, going to great lengths to tell the whole truth, we felt it was our responsibility to the sport and to you, the reader, to allow this athlete to speak his mind. 

It took a lot of courage for this man to stand up and tell it like it is, and we are keeping him anonymous to protect his status as a professional bodybuilder. We're inserting [blanks] in place of names to help protect his identity-no process of elimination to narrow down the field-and also in place of drug names, so drug-using bodybuilders don't get any inadvertent "help" with their drug programs. 

Keep in mind that we paid this man nothing because we feel money can only corrupt the information. When people are paid a high sum, they feel as if they have to give the interviewer his or her money's worth, and that can result in exaggeration. 

As you read this, remember that this athlete came to us because, like us, he loves bodybuilding and wants to see it prosper, not die a painful drug-induced death. 
Fasten your seatbelts. This dose of reality is going to open your eyes like nothing ever printed in this or any other bodybuilding magazine. 

IM: You want to get some things off your chest. You have the bodybuilding world's ear. What is it you want to talk about? 
BB: Well, you know, most of the things nobody wants to talk about. I want to let everybody know how it really is.

IM: How it is with the drugs? 
BB: Damn right! 

IM: You're having to take too many, correct? 
BB: Way too many, man. 

IM: What kind of drug bill are we talking about? 
BB: Well, growth hormone alone costs you $30,000 a year. 
That is absolutely true, HGH costs a lot of money. 

IM: Good lord! 
BB: And steroids, that's not a really big problem. I use a lot, but you can get it cheap. Mostly you gotta pay people to tell you how to use them. The growth hormone, IGF-IÃ?. 

IM: And just the thought of putting all that in your body all at one time-that's gotta take its toll on you mentally too. 
BB: Well, I don't mind a little bit, because I do like big arms, big back, big chest and legs and everything. But when it comes to the point where I'm as big as I want to get- 

IM: They tell you that you have to get bigger, right? 
BB: Yeah, I don't have a choice. I'm gonna be bigger. Next year you're going to see me 24 pounds heavier.You know it's the whole mind-set that you gotta get bigger and sacrifice your shape. I may not like the way my back looks. I mean, I've got improvements to make, obviously. But those things come with time. Maturing into a physique is nice, but they want a monster. 

IM: Do you think it can ever stop? I mean, if people keep getting bigger, what's going to happen to the sport? 
BB: Well, the sport is already- 

IM: Out of control? 
BB: Yeah. It's an underground sport. It's [a cult that] likes to see the freaky mass monsters....They really don't care. They just say, Whatever it takes to do that, that's what we want to see. But I think a lot of people want to see something that's somewhat attainable. 

IM: Do you think the size of the competitors has caused the people to be a little blast about it all? Like: Well, they're just going to have to do what it takes. We don't care; if they die, they die. We want to see 'em bigger, and we want to see 'em better. 
BB: That's right. They want us to do it, and the judges want to see something bigger. In order for us to make a living and live our dreams, we gotta do whatever it takes, you know? You got guys like [blank, a bodybuilding columnist for another magazine] saying, "Well, nobody's making you." I guess nobody is, but a lot of us [have] this dream of being the best of the built. 
Best of Roid built. 

IM: Absolutely. And it's a performance thing too. It's gratifying to be on stage. What do you think is a solution here? Do you think there is one at this point? 
BB: Well, it's hard to say. Once you've seen extreme physique development, how are you going to train the eye of the audience to accept something less? You can practically see [some of these guys'] lungs when they do rear lat spreads. You just gotta accept something less. By the way, before I go on, let me tell you right now, there's a lot of things in your hands. 

IM: I understand. Your identity is completely confidential, I promise you that. We'll just say you're a top pro. That's all. 
BB: Right. Okay. Ask anything. 

IM: Do you think part of the solution is for the judges to start rewarding a more aesthetic physique? 
BB: That would be the only way the sport would go into a positive direction. Like Bob Paris. 

IM: Right, if Bob Paris came back. I think the problem is you have to have an eye for that type of physique, and the general public and most bodybuilding fans don't have it, so they look at size as the top criterion for victory. 
BB: I think there's a certain presence, an aura to a really complete physique like Lee Labrada's, rather than someone who's just grotesque. 

IM: Getting back to the whole drug thing, do you have to stay on the drugs year-round? 
BB: Yes. I haven't gone off at all for years. 

IM: You have to inject, what, three to four times a week? 
BB: Every day. 

IM: Every day you have to inject something into your body? 
BB: Yeah. Every day. Let me go over my stack.[He rattles off a list of injectibles and orals that's so long, my jaw hits the desk.] 

IM: This is just off-season? 
BB: Yeah. And of course I like to use [blank] that blocks estrogen and also increases testosterone levels. Also [blank] four times a day in the off-season to allow me to eat more calories. I also take half a tablet of [blank], which works better synergistically with growth hormone. Six weeks or so out I start taking some [blank] to stop some of the gyno. I did have to have it removed a few years back, but it kind of flares up now and then.And I use [blank] to take some of the water out. And [every so often] I switch from the heavy androgens to the lighter anabolics, like [blank and blank], 300 milligrams every other day. Let's see, [blank], 200 milligrams a day. That helps you harden up your physique, increase your vascularity. I take some [blank], which helps me harden, and I keep my insulin the same and my growth hormone the same. 

IM: Whew! Quite a laundry list! 
BB: Well, you know there's also many other things, like [blank], which keeps my gonadal system up and [blank] to boost my testosterone to make sure I don't atrophy down there. Also, anti-estrogens and other compound factors to combat the many side effects that I get. 

IM: Have you ever noticed any serious health problems that you think are related to this? 
BB: I piss a lot of blood come contest time. 

IM: But in the off-season you feel pretty decent, even though you're taking all that stuff? 
BB: Well, recently I started getting blood tests every two months. 

IM: How about cholesterol count, blood pressure and so forth? All that's pretty normal? 
BB: No, everything is high. My blood pressure gets really high, and that must be watched, especially when I take stimulants. 

IM: It sounds as if you're on pins and needles a lot of the time. 
BB: If you gotta do it, you got no choice. You want to make a living in this sport, that's what you gotta do. 

IM: Race cars keep going faster and faster and there are more crashes, but the drivers keep doing it, right? What do you think your total drug bill is for the year? 
BB: About $60,000, but it's going to be higher next year. Just this last year I had to add [blank]. Right now it's the number-one bodybuilding "supplement" in the competition ring. All these guys you see getting bigger, it's that. No question. Two years ago...I don't want to take nothing from [blank], really nice guy, nice family man, but physiquewise he was flat as a pancake. Now he's bigger, 20 to 30 pounds heavier. It's all [from this stuff]. [Blank] is heavy on it. Of course, we all are. I'm scared shitless. 

IM: Are you guys pretty frank with each other about what you're taking? 
BB: Only with friends. I mean, I get questions in the gym all the time, and I tell them I take [a popular protein powder]! Yeah, we talk. 

IM: You don't feel you need to keep secrets and maintain an edge? 
BB: There are no secrets. There's one guy out there-I won't mention his name-he's a top pro who helps out the other pros with their [blank] 'cause we don't know how to do it, so we go to him. He helps us out. 

IM: I know the old-timers say there's no camaraderie in the sport anymore. 
BB: Oh, there's some. But the only thing we talk about is- 

IM: Drugs and training. 
BB: We don't talk about training, because most of the guys- 

IM: All train alike? 
BB: Well, yeah. We don't train that hard. [Most of the guys] are half asleep when they [work out]. 
Real champions like Haney, Yates, Swarzeneger, Oliva and all the others, trained brutally hard! 

IM: So it's mostly just the drugs. The top guys really don't have an inkling how to train without them. Do you think most of the top 10 guys are taking pretty much the same thing then? 
BB: Yeah, they're all jabbing themselves just as much, but I think [winning] has to do with your estrogen levels and your normal testosterone levels, your receptor abilities and things like that. You know, it's a genetic thing. Some people are more susceptible to steroids. Five milligrams might hit me differently than it might hit you. 

IM: I asked you this earlier, and I know you said you think that it's just all part of the game, but aren't you afraid that this will catch up with you later in life? 
BB: I am. I don't think I'll be able to have children. My doctor told me my sperm count is way too low. And my thyroid [is blown out]. 
That is most unfortunate. 

IM: Do you feel that the sport indirectly promotes the whole drug thing? 
BB: Yeah, but then you have people saying that nobody makes us. But this is our childhood dream. This is something we want to do, and for the most part we don't have other jobs. 

IM: Do you think this drug test they had at the Olympia was a step in the right direction? 
BB: It was a step in the right direction for the sport and probably a step in the wrong direction for people's careers because I know four people who [should have] tested positive. But we can beat the drug tests. Next year if they want to get diuretics, that's fine. We'll use plasmics. It's fairly simple. There's always exotic steroids."Let's change some molecule on the 17th position, and it can't be detected." [Blank] still can't be detected. 
I Disagree, drug test is a must. When real drug testing is done ( not the thing they do right now in the Olympia ), things will come upside down. Remember Olympic weightlifting. After the new drug tests, people literally lifted half the weight they used to. 

IM: This is the most eye-opening interview I've ever had. I appreciate your opening up to me. 
BB: You're welcome. It could be because I'm very low on carbohydrates. 

IM: And you're pissed off. 
BB: Yeah, you know the diuretic scene is very difficult. I'm back there with my I.V. bag and heart monitor. It's just the situation. You take a person and put him into a lab in a freak science experiment. Then you throw him on stage, and you take him off to pump blood back into him. Is that a sport?The training is pretty much beaten to death. In fact, your magazine for the natural athletes is what I recommend. Professional bodybuilding [is about] drugs. Of course, there's abuse in every professional sport-boxing, basketball, baseball, football. 
I sincerely agree. 

IM: How long do you think you can keep at it? I mean at this pace? 
BB: Well I've been on forÃ?oh God. I'll tell you right now, if anybody's going to die next, it's going to be [blank]. He's too old to be messing with [junk] like that. His pancreas I don't think is too good.There's a look that you get. I can see it. [Blank, a top pro] is very ill. I understand what he wants to do for the sport, and he can do some great things, but he's dying and every contest he loses is a blow to him. He's killing himself literally because he wants to make this sport better. Eventually he's either going to win the contest or he's going to die. 

IM: He's really playing Russian roulette? 
BB: Yeah, he was using [blank] before any of us. I prefer his look back [a few years]. He wasn't big but aesthetic-a pleasing physique. Something a kid would look at and say, Hey, I would like to look like that. Now he should be concentrating more on certain bodyparts, but instead his body is getting bigger, his stomach, his head, everything. 

IM: It's a scary look. Yes, the body's getting bigger, but all the internal organs are getting large, bloated. 
BB: They should have a contest for the biggest growth-hormone gut. 

IM: Got anything else you want to get off your chest? 
BB: Yeah, you know I have a hard time thinking because of all the things I'm on now. But they don't talk about how much drug [abuse] there is. And it's not just the steroids. We've got to use speed and stuff like that. We have to use a lot of diuretics, things that aren't too healthy, and they don't feel good. Lots of guys are using cocaine-not just because they like it, but it helps you get cut up, it helps you not eat.With drugs there's use and abuse. But at our level I feel we're getting exploited, you know? They pump us full of drugs...or we pump ourselves full of drugs to make ourselves look like freaks, and we get on stage and that's our job. But we don't get paid hardly anything. The guy who uses our pictures, the supplement companies, make all the money, and they don't give us nothing. If it wasn't for our picture, they wouldn't have nothing to promote. 

IM: Yeah, and you gotta keep risking your life to try to make a few bucks winning a show. 
BB: I'll tell you what: [Some] of the guys, like [blank], are gay prostitutes. 

IM: Think so? 
BB: I know so. That's how they can afford all those drugs. That's definite. Of course [certain people in] the gay community are going to walk up and say, Hey, we'll give you so much to have sex. That's just like a straight guy walking up to Cindy Crawford and saying it. But for us it's a way to make a good $10,000 a month. It helps with our drug bill and sometimes they just give us drugs for the act. 

IM: When you think about it, you guys can't make much money. 
BB: There's not much money in the contracts. Especially with the drugs, the living, the food. You have to sacrifice your- 

IM: Integrity? 
BB: Yeah, your integrity, your pride. It's all a sacrifice. The drugs, the prostitution. These guys don't want to do that. They have to look in the mirror. They know they're sacrificing what makes them a man.And all this crap you see about carb loading and sodium. Bunch of mess. 

IM: So you don't think they actually do sodium loading? It's all just drugs? 
BB: Precontest every once in a while you catch a guy in McDonald's or eating pizza. You can do that kind of thing-of course, in moderation. 

IM: But you're a pretty heavy supplement user? 
BB: I don't use supplements at all! No vitamins, nothing. 

IM: You don't think that vitamins and minerals would help protect you somewhat from all the drugs? 
BB: Yeah, but- 

IM: You've got put your money where it's going to be the most effective, right? On drugs. 
BB: Right. I'd like to see a $1 million prize [for a bodybuilding contest]. That's something else that would help the sport. If there's a decent amount of money in there, it would be something people would watch. Unfortunately, I think people want to see the freaks at this point. Really big mothers up there. It's like you said, you really can't go backwards. I guess you have to let [it] self-destruct and see what happens. 

IM: I don't want to see any of you guys die. 
BB: We will. I guarantee you. You're going to see lots of guys dying in the next few years. 

IM: I hope the drug test is a step in the right direction, and maybe they'll start judging for more aesthetic physiques. If they did backtrack to more of the Bob Paris look, I think it would help. 
BB: Is that ever going to happen? 

IM: How much longer do you think you're going to go on with it? 
BB: Till I reach my goal. Or it beats me. 
The second will happen, most likely. 

IM: Have you ever experienced any kind of depression or rage? 
BB: Oh, yeah. Beaten many peopleÃ?got out of hand. I feel bad about that. 

IM: Having all that coursing through your system has to do something to you mentally. 
BB: Well, besides that, you feel a lump here, and you feel scared, and you don't know what's going on. 

IM: Do you get checked by a doctor regularly? 
BB: I get the blood tests, and he reads it. It's foreign to me. I just ask how much longer do I have to live, what am I doing wrong? 

IM: But he doesn't do any MRIs on you? It's just basically a blood test? 
BB: No. He checks my thyroid, sperm count. Of course, I'm never going to be able to have children. 

IM: Perhaps some of this will reverse itself once you- 
BB: No, I have irreversible damage. 

IM: That's really sad. 
BB: I think it happened last year. When I upped everything, I shut my thyroid down. And if I go off the [blank], I'm going to get fat. I'm going to stay on the stuff permanently. If I go off, I'm going to rebound. None of these guys go off. It's just nonstop. These guys do what it takes.Don't you see that they're exploiting us? They're selling us. They're pumping us up, putting us on stage, throwing us off, and they're collecting the money. And we're back there rolling around in death.In the process they will make money. Sell ourselves. Sell our souls, and we don't get much. And even if you take the drugs, it's no guarantee you're going to win. You have to have something going on there. But [the people who run this sport] say, Keep it going, keep it going. And watch their wallets getting bigger. They don't care. 
It is a big business today. 

IM: But you did say looking like that helps you with women? 
BB: That makes it a little worthwhile, but I never had any problem with the bitches. I got plenty before. Now I'm bigger, so I get a lot more. But you also get the bad-that includes harassment from the homos.I want to say for the guys who want to take their physiques to a [higher level], weight training, eating right and exercising will help you achieve your goals. What's big to you may be small compared to a pro, but like I said, Lee Labrada will look huge to a lot of guys. So you can attain your goals, get bigger, get better with the women, look good. You may not win Mr. Olympia, but you can still have something to be proud of [without the drugs].[Competitive bodybuilding, for the most part] is all chemistry. It's chemical warfare. Andreas Munzer had something we never had. All those striations and [blank] drugs, but look what it did to him. He died by the sword. And [blank] pocketed everything Andreas ever did.We have to deal with the rat race and the counterfeit steroids. All these guys saying, Yeah, I fell down and broke my arm. That's not true. That's the dealer breaking their arms because they didn't pay for their shipment of growth hormone. 

IM: You say you go to Mexico for a lot of this stuff? 
BB: Yeah, I go to Mexico. The European tour is where most of us get our drugs.[Switches subjects again] You don't need drug testing. Just a Lee Labrada. It didn't take a ton [of drugs] to do that. Pick that, and there you go. All the other guys will have to trim down to look like that. 

IM: Go for the aesthetic physique. That's one of the big steps they have to take. By the way, isn't there a drug that you can inject directly into the muscle to blow it up? 
BB: Oh, yeah, [blank]. Use that for my peak on my biceps. [Blank] uses it everywhere-80 to 100 shots. Tell you right now it hurts like hell. But it's hard to predict. It may look good five days before the show, then it lumps out and you'll get guys with the real lumpy, weird-looking biceps.This whole sport is about being a b****. You gotta be a b**** to pay your bills. You gotta be a b**** to win. That's what it's all about. Total exploitation. I'd like the athletes to make a little more money. All these magazines talk about how much Michael Jordan and Mike Tyson make. They don't talk about how much we make, 'cause it's disgraceful. What am I going to do? Sell pictures of myself? 

IM: Do a lot of the guys sell drugs on the side? 
BB: Oh, yeah. I've done that myself. Now it's a lot harder. 
A drug dealer too. 

IM: So what else? Is there's anything you can think of that you're really pissed off about. 
BB: Well, I'm pissed off that we have to use this amount of drugs. I was happier with my physique last year. [They want us] in the 270-pound range. 

IM: Don't you think the magazines are a little at fault too? 
BB: Yeah, they are. They don't print nothing about the drug regimen. They're selling fake dreams to kids: Take this protein powder, and you're going to look like that. And it ain't true. Drugs play a predominant role, and most of the [champions'] training articles lead to overtraining. You know that. And unless you're on steroids, you're going to end up unhappy and lose your dream. 
Absolutely true. 

IM: I guess it's a vicious cycle. 
BB: The insulin's very dangerous. I'm feeling it right now. I'm getting real tired, headaches, weakness. I breathe hard. Not a good drug to take. 

IM: What's the danger with the insulin? It's a hormone, so what's the big problem? 
BB: You can die right there. I mean, there isn't one of us who hasn't been in shock. You really don't know. 

IM: Have you ever had to go to the hospital because of it? 
BB: I've been in the hospital a few times, yeah. They had to use half a bag of glucose intravenously to keep me going. I didn't have any glucose in my liver, because I did too much insulin. My brain was starved, and I was beginning to fall asleep, go into a coma. It's the most painful feeling you'll ever feel. During that time your mind's going nuts.What am I getting out of all this? A cover picture? That won't pay the bills. Maybe they should start giving back to the athletes instead of taking. If they're gonna make it where we have to be bigger, we should get something out of it. Golfers make more money than we do. I saw how much they make at these rodeos too. They collect $50,000 for riding some damn bull. They don't have to take drugs to do that. 

IM: The danger's there for eight seconds, then they're out of there. You guys have danger all year long. 
BB: Yeah it's dangerous. 

IM: To say the least. 

How rich are Jay Cutler and other Pro's ?!

           
Ronnie Coleman

 $10 Million





Jay Cutler 

$30 Million

Rich Gaspari 

$90 Million

Arnold Schwarzenegger

$300 Million

Hardcore Bodybuilder & Powerlifter turns into Tranny

Before

Before

After

Matt "Kroc" Kroczaleski -- who won the WPO Powerlifting Middle Weight championship at the 2006 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic announced that he would no longer be "Matt" -- she's now Janae Marie.

"I want to address a few things to answer many of the questions I have been receiving. First, unfortunately many of the articles that are appearing on line are stating that I have already fully transitioned. I have not; I am currently still living life in both genders. I am trying to wait until my sons are out of high school before moving forward. " 

Backstage Secrets of Pro Bodybuilders Revealed - Lee Priest's infamous Interview

---
TOM PLATZ: You mentioned you were competing 5 or 6 years before you took steroids. So how old were you when you first started taking steroids?

LEE PRIEST: I was 19.

TOM PLATZ: 19, since we're speaking about steroids at this point, what specific steroids do you find effective in your training?

LEE PRIEST: Well, I've always stuck to the basics like DECA (Deca-Durobolin) was the very first one I used, when I was 19. I put on 20 lbs. and I only did a 6-week coarse on it. I only used 2cc a week, I finally put on 20 lbs., I'm sure you carry some water weight with that. Even now I stick to the basics like DECA. PRIMOBOLAN, I don't like tests, I stay away fromtestosterone's, but just the basics like that. So I don't really deal with them ....you know how some guys like slacking6 or 7, I've always stuck to 2.

TOM PLATZ: Like in terms of some of the drugs you just mentioned, steroids you just mentioned, specific dosages, can you give us some specific dosages you use prior to show and how long you use these dosages.

LEE PRIEST: When I'm getting ready for a contest I'll start dialing 12 weeks out, so I'll siart with maybe like STANAZOL, which is the same as WINSTROL, I'll take like 2 cc's every 3 days, then sometimes I get sick of it and increase il to every 4 or 5 days, because I hate being a pin cushion

Then I was taking 1 anadrol 50 a day cause they are one of the worst on your liver, so I hate using them but, yet keeping the size and strength their good for that, I take 1 of them. I was taking 2iu's of GROWTH HORMONE every day for the last 6 weeks, then just nolvadex to cut the fluid down a bit. That's about all getting ready for a contest.

TOM PLATZ: So how about in the off season, would you take?

LEE PRIEST: Offseason I don't take much I rely more on food and heavy training. I'd normally go maybe 5 months before I'd do another course in the offseason. Then I'd just take the basics like DECA, 2 cc's of DECA, 2 CC'S OF PR1MOBOLAN for 8 weeks then I'm off of it for 3 months before 1 do something else. I've never been a big believer in.. .people get the mentality that they need steroids to grow. You need steroid for this.. ..But, if you get that in your mentality then they can't train without. Where I might just use them for an assistance rather then rely on them. That's why at contest time I might use a little more, because I'm doing more training, I'm doing more cardio, so even like dieting you cut your food back, so recovery becomes a harder. So the drugs might help me for recovery more than anything..

TOM PLATZ: Is there an certain time during the year, you mentioned it was 4 week, 4 months prior to a show you start getting ready?

LEE PRIEST: Normally 3 to 4 months before a contest I start preparing, As soon as I start my diet, I start restricting my food, I start on one steroid like, STANAZOL, just the keep the size and strength if I'm cutting back calories. Then maybe like 6 weeks before the show I'll start the growth hormone. Then like 8 week I'll put the ANADROL in, 8 weeks before the show. I don't take them all at once from the beginning, I just slowly start on one and increase the other. Then as the show get nearer I Start tapering off again.

TOM PLATZ: That brings up a point, prior to the show do you stop taking steroids completely at the certain point or do you continue steroids throughout the show?

LEE PRIEST: Normally a week or two before the show I'll stop them, I'm just so sick of taking them anyway, cause I don't really feel, sometimes my stomach feel sick when I'm on them and I can't sleep sometimes. I always look forward to stop taking the needle so the sooner the better for me being the show comes close 1 just wait to gel off of them. You know like a week or two before I stop them all together.

TOM PLATZ: Depending upon the number of shows, I guess you enter per year would determine how long your on steroids for that, for that year. Is there any specific time you don't take steroids, number of months, weeks that you don't Lake steroids at all during the year?

LEE PRIEST: Normally if I do my contest, I try to group them all together so the shows are pretty close together. But like after a show, like a big, like the show I did last year, I didn't tough them again for like 7 months. I just went totally off of them, I had maybe a shot of DECA twice, because I had like sore elbows, then for the joints I took two shots a DECA, but that was about it for the whole 7 months.

TOM PLATZ: So your doses are actually quite low, compared to what I think people, think about?

LEE PRIEST: I have read magazines where you say guys use as much as professional use, these lies we sit down and laugh it, we you know, we spend $40,000 a year, $50,000 to get ready for the contest. It's like you know, body builders, people say we dumbbell, we not this stupid. But, it 's like, when your prize money is $10,000.00 who's going lo spend $50,000.00 to get ready for a contest.

TOM PLATZ: I think one of the guys 1 was talking to earlier mentioned that sometimes 15,000 on up to 50,000 even 100.000 dollars a year and that's... you don't do anything like that?

LEE PRIEST: I tell you from my past experience, the last show I did a big contest, I didn't spend anymore then 2,000.00 dollars and that's only because 1 started using a bit of GROWTH HORMONE, which I've never used, prior to two years ago. But before then I didn't spend anymore than 600.00 dollars to get ready for the show.

[...]

TOM PLATZ: Based upon the fact you take small amounts, will this be a suggestion, not that we're in this particular video arc we making suggestions or recommendations for drug use ai all. we're merely confronting the issues. But, in terms of the viewers and the younger people coming up. younger guys coming up listening to this, your basic thoughts would be less is more?

LEE PRIEST: I've always found, that everyone I speak to I tell them that, but yeL some people have it set in their mind that they need large amounts cause, so many people tell them, you know, the pros take this much, the pros that much, but yet. the pros don't. Every amateur I've met takes twice the amount as a pro does but cause we're bigger then... I say their taking 1500 mgs and we're bigger their thinking well the pros taking 3,000 mgs but yet, like I said I take like 200 mgs of DECA, 200 mgs of PRIMABOLAN that's 400 mgs. a week. I get good results from that, so you don't need large amounts, it's like more is not better. It doesn't do anything, it's just a waste a money and then I'd rather spend a little bit on drugs which I'm going to use, then spend the rest of mine on food, cause you know the food is going to work. So just try it heavy on that. Bui, people want to get a quick fix right away, want to get huge overnight, but, building muscle takes years, So I recommend training 5 or 6 years before you ever start to use steroids. It's like one of those tilings where you have to build a foundation first then maybe if you want to experiment and try, then go ahead, but, don't go crazy, thinking your going to get big overnight and take large amount, cause your only going to end up sick or dead. You know, it's not going to make you any bigger taking a large quantity.